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Okay, something I just don't get. Simona Ventura, especially when she was hosting Music Farm, would always wear dresses that are low cut inthe back, sometimes with spaghetti straps or strappless and she would wear these dresses (normally pastels) with a black bra (regular bra with straps). So you see this pretty springtime dress and this ugly black bra sticking out of it. Maybe she is trying to start a new trend as of late I seem to see lots of people showing off their bras.

Anyone else thing that this fashion trend is ugly as can be????


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Posts: 4263 | Location (City & State): Siena, Italy | Registered: 26 August 2004Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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She is dressed by Dolce and Gabbana and they love bras. They design them that way. I thought the worst was at San Remo a year ago, when no one much had seen the collections and it just looked like arrogant stupidity.
Sometimes they bead and sequin them to look part of the dress, but they also like to be frank about them.
It still looks trailer trashy to me, but then I am hardly the last word in la moda.
 
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Personally, I think it looks a whole lot better with a visible bra than without a bra.

Also, for us less fortunate, wearing a bra (even if means that it's visible) might very well be the only way to keep up the illusion that we actually have something in the front area.. Big Grin
 
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At first it freaked me out, but I have seen her look that way so often, now it doesn't bother me. And the beauty of it it (for her) she gets to wear cool clothes, and have great cleavage. ahah

I despise the bras with plastic straps. I see women here ALL the time wearing one shoulder tops with those plastic bras. *ugh*

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Annika, I agree, a bra is better then no bra! And if you can't wear a top with a bra, you shouldn't wear the top! *eeek* heheh (unless you are small chested - those women are lucky, they can wear those kinds of tops!)
 
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This was one of the more popular rants on my site, some time ago: http://www.straughan.com/oped/bras.htm


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Well, I really enjoy go shopping for bras and as long as I pick the right size (that is always the same for me) and make the adjustment to tighten the circunference (I am very tiny) they are fine on me. So for two euros at the local mercato I buy a new bra and I buy tons of them, all colors, orange, yellow, white, black, blue, baby blue, green..... and the matching panties. I don't care if the straps show out of the dress as long as they are the same color of the dress. Very rarely, if the dress has a very low back at a ball, I might consider not wearing a bra. I just love underwears and it's the most natural thing to me to match it with the clothes I am wearing.

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Unless I am wearing a shirt that is so transparent that I am basically naked I never wear a bra. Actually, even in the above case I only wear it if I am not feeling like drawing glances. Also, I think that small berasts are a blessing because they allow you not to wear any bra. And those visible straps... They are UGH! huh? Especially the stransparent plastic ones, where you can see the skin below them betting all sweaty and white, as though it had been boiled. 8-6~


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Annika, while I think a good bra is important, you have to imagine seeing a light glittering dress, low cut in the back, halter top front (the type that goes around the neck not over the shoulders. Now imagine the lines of this, destroyed by a big ugly black bra that you can see not only the straps of but also the back, and the front. I mean, why bother with a top if she is just out to show off her bra.

I am trying to find a photo but it isn't that easy. Found a couple. Here is one from the front.


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Too small, let's try this

and here is the same dress from the side


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Yup, that does look pretty retarded. huh?
 
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Presumably it's a fashion statement. On a sort of related note - well, it's underwear-related - we've been bemused by what seems to be a fashion amongst girls: wearing their jeans deliberately low in order to expose the tops of their knickers.
 
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D&G love 'em or hate 'em... hehe

I think a lot of fashions play out so much better on tv, but if you were to take them into everyday normal lives, it would be too weird.

I am kind of glad though that D&G has tried to bring this style to the forefront, because when I wear a tanktop or something that doesn't perfectly hide my bras, I am not as freaked out as I used to be. And if they color matches or compliments, all the better. But I would never go as far as the picture here - with the dress or the bra...
 
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Personally I dont have a problem with my bra showing - depending on the occasion. If it's just a normal day and I'm weating a tank top with speghetti straps, I'll let my bra straps show. I always wear fun bras, and make sure that the straps match the shirt. Likewise if the shirt is a little see-through, I'll just make sure that the bra beneath is fun and matches. The way I figure it, everyone knows I'm wearing a bra, so why hide it? If I'm going out at night, I'll usually wear a strapless, but not always. I defiantly need a bra, and I'm not going to let the change of it showing, stop me from wearing tank tops. Of course if I'm wearing a halter, a tube, or a one strap, I'll defiantly wear a strapless.

Now, on the rare occasion that I dress up for something important or special, I'll make sure that my bra isn't showing. I'll make sure that whatever I'm wearing, I'm able to wear a strapless with.

I must say though, if I had the money to buy dolce and gabbana, I think i would wear their fancy dresses with the bras showing. It's part of the fun, to do something you're not supposed to do. And it's being true to the designers vision. Now, I probably wouldn't be like Carrie Bradshaw and wear whatever I wanted with my bra sticking out in the back like she always does. That does look a bit tacky. But in the instances that the designer planned it that way, sure, why not? I'll do it. Anyone wanna buy me a dress? bellyemoticon

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This fashion (?) craze was started by Sex and the City when SJP was pregnant. I hate it unless it's SJP, imo she can get away with anything.
 
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true, she can get away with anything she wants. So unfair for those of us who live in farm land where clean jeans and a tshirt is considered high fashion farmer

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I think a lot of what you can get away with has to do with your body type and age and style.

Simona can get away with a lot more then I can - she has a great figure, she is on TV and she is dressed by professionals... and she is tan!

Although, if I had her great figure I would probably wear some different clothes then I wear now (and if I had somewhere to go! haha). If I were in my 20's again...oh to be 20 again - I am a little more conservative then I used to be. The short skirts are out, the belly baring tops are out... *sigh*

I see girls here all the time wearing the low pants, short tops, and they have huge guts hanging out. That is worse then bra straps any day!
 
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Ha Agreed.

That was one thing I noticed a lot of in England, the short shirts with the guts hanging out. I may not have a perfect body, but I keep my stomach covered. It defiantly varies from person to person what they can get away with.

There is no way I'd go out tomorrow wearing the dress that Simona is wearing. A) I dont have the body B) I'm not tan enough and C) if I wore that in Corvallis, I'd be picked up by the police who would assume I was the first prostitue to dare to enter our sleepy town!

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But you would be a well dressed D&G prostitute. hahaa
 
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Well, I'm 47 and I'm ashamed to admit it but it's just been recently that I've gotten into purchasing really pretty, sexy underware for myself. I don't know why all of a sudden I want all this gorgeous, lacy stuff but there it is. I've now got a drawer full of it. This is all well and good for me....I'm an adult and I certainly don't dress myself like Simona. BUT. I do have a 15-year old daughter who thinks life is nothing without bra's everyone can see and teeny, tiny panties that fall apart after one washing. It's really difficult to try and get one's teen to go out covered up as much as possible in the face of all the stuff seen in magazines and television touting just the opposite. I used to think my setting an example would be enough...I guess all those years of pratical white cotton bra's and panties I put myself through did absolutely nothing... sign37
 
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true. I think I'd risk being thrown in jail for one of those dresses. bellyemoticon

Donna, there is nothing to be ashamed about with buying sexy underwear. It's a great thing to do for yourself. Even if no one can see my underwear, I always feel better about myself when I'm wearing something fun, rather than the old whities. In fact, I've banished the old whities from my wardrobe. It's silly I know, but it's true.

As far as your daughter goes, good luck with that battle. Society and her friends are going to have much more influence on what she wears, than what you wear does. In fact, she may specifically not wear what you wear, just to be difiant. I know I'm still pretty young, but I've seen my fair share of trends come and go. One thing that even I have been able to notice in my short lifetime is that it's a lot more acceptable to wear less now a days. While it may seem unappropriate to you to go out in as little as she does, to others her age it would be inappropriate to go out in more. As long as she keeps good morals, keeps her grades up, stays out of trouble, I wouldn't worry too much about what she wears (with that said, if she started dressing all in black, with chains and things, I'd probably have a talking with her. I know that's just another fashion statement, but in my opinion a bad one. Wink)

It's funny, because just last weekend I was up at my mom's house in portland with some friends getting ready to go out. My mom is really cool and will let us have some drinks at her house ahead of time (to save money) and then she'll drive us downtown (although we have to take a taxi home). She was funny in that she was encouraging me to wear a mini skirt instead of jeans, but then wanted me to put on a sweater over my tank top because I'd be "cold." I think she just didn't like the tank top, because it's one of those that's all lacy and looks like langerie. Of course I'm 22 and she has no say over what I wear. But to humor her reasoning that I'd be too cold, I just told her that inside the bars it'd be too hot with a sweater, and when I took it off I'd probably loose it.

She's my mother, and I expect her to nag me about my clothes. It lets me know she cares. If she didn't, I think I'd actually miss it.

With a teenager it's important to let them express themselves, but dont let them get away with everything. Let her have her bras show, but make sure her thongs aren't sticking up above her pants - that really is trashy and asking for trouble.

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I was just thinking yesterday how much I would have liked wearing these "almost dressed" clothes when I was young and had a great body. And yet they bother me sometimes when I see them on the street. Maybe the message is less perilous here.
Then I remembered that last summer O bought a bikini top to wear under a braless one piece with no back. I wouldn't have dome that before D&G started throwing bras into the public face!
So, like it or not I think we are all affected somehow by la moda. I am really glad to live in a country that finds fashion shows appropriate prime time television. I love to go through the collection issues of Vogue and see what real life clothes I can come up with inspired by the runway stuff.
There are not so many adnantages to being a woman, but getting to play with fashion, hair and makeup is to me a real plus.
Cristina, sew some beads and sequins onto your bra and get out there. You are only young once.
 
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Now that I have seen the picture of the lady in question: That simply does not look good. Not only the fact that the bra is showing, I could live with that, but the dress itself is horrible! Although, I can agree that it would look better without that clumsy bra underneath, some good double-sided tape would solve the problem. She is quite well-equipped, but it does look like silicon and such babies are not that droopy anyway are they?

As for small-chested women being able to not wear a bra - it is true that we don't need the support - it's our clothes that need some support from down-under! Big Grin Although it still looks a whole lot better with a bra than without, IMO. Gives a better shape, you know?
I have worn fish-net tank tops with just a bra underneath, and while it is not what I would wear to work or to a dinner with the in-laws, it can be perfectly suitable for a fun night out. Yesterday I wore a sheer green dress with spaghetti straps, and yes I did have a black bra under it (because the dress needed it to look good) and yes the straps were showing - just make sure that the straps look good and wear it with confidence!

I also LOVE really low-cut jeans, but that is where my limit is reached. I would not have my panties sticking up! And why would I - they have cute, low-cut, teeny tiny panties on H&M for about € 2! thumbs up
 
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Geez, You're right Autumn, that does look retarded!
I mean, if I paid for a boob job like that, and I was standing on a stage in a beaded Dolce & Gabbana dress, I think I'd go commando!

What is especially shocking to read is that girls/women dress just as trashy in Italy as they do in Vegas. I see young women all the time wearing reeeeaaaalllly tight jeans and teeny-tiny tank tops. Jeans so tight, walking is impaired. To top it off, in a lot of cases these women are quite a bit overweight and it seems to be a fashion statement to have a spare tire????

I don't get it. Confused


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I see young women all the time wearing reeeeaaaalllly tight jeans and teeny-tiny tank tops

Guilty as charged, I guess this is a global issue! Wink
Although, I only wear clothes like that on good days. The trick is that no body parts and no skin (and no fat!) should be hanging out, the clothes are still supposed to be the most external thing on you.
 
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