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Cittadino

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I thought this was interesting on bloomberg.com

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ac1P6d0HpJaw&refer=home

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Bill 2

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Cittadino

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Storace, Alemanno and La Russa are seeking to tap into Italian memories of Fascist Dictator Benito Mussolini, who -- though he allied Italy with Adolf Hitler's Germany and deported Italy's Jews to Nazi concentration camps -- also created jobs, introduced a national pension plan, built roads, drained marshes and improved railway punctuality.

I've always wondered how people rationalize glossing over the deportation of Italian Jews to death camps, and focusing on train timeliness. What can they be thinking?

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Of the 7,800 Italian Jews deported to German concentration camps during World War II, 837 survived, according to the Web site of Rome's Museo Shoah, or Holocaust museum.
Italians don't recognize that the race laws that led to the deportation of Italy's Jews weren't imposed by Hitler, Gentile said, but were ``a free choice, made autonomously and consciously by Mussolini.''

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Cittadino

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I know it is scary...i have friends who like mussolini but not necessary all that he did...i mean how do you distinguish the two...

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Bill 2

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Cittadino

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Take them on the train to Trieste- there's a concentration camp there.

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Gioele

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quote:
Originally posted by JilM:
I know it is scary...i have friends who like mussolini but not necessary all that he did...i mean how do you distinguish the two...

Hmm, yes.... I would distinguish between the two by keeping the friends who realize Mussolini is a war criminal who destroyed freedom and brought death in order to form a perfect union between corporations and the state.

I would dump those "friends" who failed to see this.

Simple really, you can chose who you associate with...

From Wiki:

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All other parties were outlawed in 1928, though in practice Italy had been a one-party state since Mussolini's 1925 speech. In the same year, an electoral law abolished parliamentary elections. Instead, the Grand Council of Fascism selected a single list of candidates to be approved by plebiscite. The Grand Council had been created five years earlier as a party body but was "constitutionalised" and became the highest constitutional authority in the state. The Grand Council also had the power to recommend Mussolini's removal from office, and was thus theoretically the only check on his power. However, only Mussolini could summon the Grand Council and determine its agenda.

Yeah, great guy....

Gioele

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Cittadino

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I think you misunderstood. I know how to choose friends. I was being sarcastic....I guess iI just don't know how to show it....

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Gioele

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quote:
Originally posted by JilM:
I think you misunderstood. I know how to choose friends. I was being sarcastic....I guess iI just don't know how to show it....

Huh?

Do you have friends who like Mussolini, or not?

I'm confused....

Gioele

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Bryan S

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www.panoramaitaly.com
www.picenohomeservices.com

I think this article reflects what you see in the newspapers...rather scary. The treatment of extracomunitari is just one step in this direction. I have seen posters recently from Berlusconi's party lately praising the government troops patrolling the streets. I am all for supporting the military but this use of force within the country should raise some images of Mussolini's tactics.

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Cittadino

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quote:
Originally posted by Gioele:
quote:
Originally posted by JilM:
I think you misunderstood. I know how to choose friends. I was being sarcastic....I guess iI just don't know how to show it....

Huh?

Do you have friends who like Mussolini, or not?

I'm confused....

Yes I have friends who liked some of the things Mussolini accomplished before the alliance with Germany.....

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Gioele

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quote:
Originally posted by JilM:
quote:
Originally posted by Gioele:
quote:
Originally posted by JilM:
I think you misunderstood. I know how to choose friends. I was being sarcastic....I guess iI just don't know how to show it....

Huh?

Do you have friends who like Mussolini, or not?

I'm confused....

Yes I have friends who liked some of the things Mussolini accomplished before the alliance with Germany.....

There was a lot of stuff he did before joining the Axis in June 10, 1940.

Like his effective use of propoganda to subjugate the Italian populace.

Like heading the MVSN (Blackshirts) and violently terrorizing the opposition.

Like banning other political parties and elections in 1928.

Like invading Ethiopia in 1936.

Like sending aid to Franco in the Spanish Civil War in 1936

Lots of stuff there...

What type of things do your friends like? Timely trains?

Gioele

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filomena

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Turns out even those legendary trains were another Mousse Myth (try reading the brilliant Dennis Mack Smith biography of da Dootch), but when you have total control over the media, anything's possible, innit?

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