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F. Christopher Reynolds, M.
Turista
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Hello,

My name is Chris Reynolds. I am department chair of world languages at
Berea High School in Berea, Ohio. One of my students has been creating
a self-guided curriculum of Italian and art. She has just moved to Venice
after graduating with her high school diploma.

As she was applying for her Visa, it turned out that because she
has Italian roots, that she is in fact an Italian citizen. While that
news made getting the Visa no longer a hurdle, it has unexpectedly
created a new problem, that of her education. She has an American
diploma, which as an Italian citizen, does not help her much to
enter to college she intends to enter.

I am confident that there is a way through this little tangle, however,
the knowledge and skills required to manage it are beyond what
i can do for her.

It is my hope that you would have some advice or know someone who
knows the system well enough to help a highly motivated American student
continue in her education.

Sincerely,

F. Christopher Reynolds, M.Ed.
Berea HIgh School
Ashland University
 
Posts: 3 | Location (City & State): Berea, Ohio | Registered: 13 August 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
patg
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by F. Christopher Reynolds, M.:

As she was applying for her Visa, it turned out that because she
has Italian roots, that she is in fact an Italian citizen. While that
news made getting the Visa no longer a hurdle, it has unexpectedly
created a new problem, that of her education.

/QUOTE]

Maybe Bill 2 will chime in here because he knows a lot about all this stuff. You mentioned that because she has Italian roots she was an Italian citizen. But did she apply for Italian citizenship? In other words, did she have her citizenship recognized? If she indeed had Italian citizenship she wouldn't need a visa to go to Italy.

My daughter's roommate from college is studying abroad in Italy this fall and she is of Italian descent. She needed a student visa in order to go because she has never had her citizenship recognized. As far as Italy is concerned she is an American citizen hence the visa.

So, I'm not sure what you are seeking here. Maybe she is having a difficult time entering college because of her having a US high school diploma but it wouldn't have anything to do with "her being an Italian citizen" which from your post I think she hasn't really had it recognized.
 
Posts: 572 | Location (City & State): North Carolina | Registered: 29 June 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
F. Christopher Reynolds, M.
Turista
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Hello,

Thank you. Yes. She got her citizenship recognized, which made the visa no problem. The problem now is to get into the Accademia she wants to enter, she needs an Esame di Stato. Is there some way to transfer her American high school diploma, have it be allowed in place of the Esame? Do you have any connections within the system, or know anyone who has connections who could help with this? We have a GED, which is a test you can take to get an American high school diploma. Is there a test like that in Italy? Do you know anyone who has gone through the same kind of process, an American who wants to study art in Italy, who applies directly to the Italian art school?

Thanks again,

M. Reynolds
 
Posts: 3 | Location (City & State): Berea, Ohio | Registered: 13 August 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Bill 2Premium Membership
Volo Libero
Cittadino
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I think she will need to contact L'Accademia di Belli Arti di Venezia and ask if they will accept her US high school transcripts and diploma (translated and apostilled) in lieu of the Esame di Stato. I see here http://web1.regione.veneto.it/cicerone/corsi/alta-forma...o_venezia.jsp?id=468 under REQUISITI DI INGRESSO:
quote:
Sono ammessi senza esami coloro i quali abbiano conseguito uno dei seguenti titoli: diploma di maturità artistica di I sezione, diploma di maturità d'arte applicata. Sono ammessi con esami di ammissione coloro che siano in possesso di maturità classica, scientifica, magistrale o altri titoli equipollenti. Coloro che siano in possesso di maturità artistica di II sezione dovranno sostenere le sole prove artistiche.

She can ask if her US degree qualifies.

If she gets past that hurdle, the admission exam for the school itself seems quite rigorous:
quote:
Per accedere al corso è necessario sostenere gli esami di ammissione. I candidati devono presentare domanda alla segreteria dell'Accademia. Gli allievi ammessi al primo anno di un corso d'Accademia non possono frequentare un'Accademia diversa da quella dove hanno sostenuto l'esame di ammissione Prove dell'esame di ammissione: 1° giorno: prova di cultura generale: prova scritta su argomento di storia dell'arte. (Durata della prova : 6 ore.) 2° giorno: prova artistica: bozzetto pittorico, tecnica libera. (Durata della prova :8 ore ) 3° giorno: prova artistica: saggio di disegno di figura dal vero. (Durata della prova: 6 ore) 4° giorno: prova artistica: saggio di disegno di figura dal vero. (Durata della prova:6 ore) 5° giorno: prove orali: Italiano: il candidato dovrà mostrare di conoscere per diretta lettura un'opera della letteratura dell'Ottocento e una del Novecento (romanzi o raccolte poetiche) Storia: conoscenze della storia dell'Ottocento e del Novecento Storia dell'Arte: conoscenza generale dell'arte da Giotto all'Ottocento Trattazione particolareggiata di un movimento del Novecento e dei suoi protagonisti. Concetti generali dell'estetica con speciale riguardo alle arti figurative del XX secolo.
 
Posts: 14303 | Location (City & State): Friuli | Registered: 21 November 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
nrmn
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quote:
Originally posted by nrmn:
quote:
We have a GED, which is a test you can take to get an American high school diploma. Is there a test like that in Italy?


As far as I know there is no equivalent to a GED exam in Italy, the only way to get a diploma that certifies that you passed the "Esame di Stato" is to be admitted to the 13th grade and pass the exam itself at the end of the school year ( June/July ). It is not uncommon for individuals that were home schooled to be allowed to take the exam. From what I heard it is also the hardest way to get a diploma, since the "examining commission" will be far stricter and probing with the " Privatisti" ( Home schooled outside candidates ) than with the internal students.

As Bill previously stated I would personally get the Diploma evaluated and translated by the Italian Embassy here you will find the Instructions .

FYI, I don't know if this applies to your student, but I know that in some public H.S. here in Maryland they have the International Baccalaureate program that is equivalent to a European H.S. diploma for college admission purposes in Europe. here is a link
 
Posts: 12 | Location (City & State): Maryland U.S ( Former Friuli resident ) | Registered: 21 July 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
F. Christopher Reynolds, M.
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Grazie,

I really appreciate your assistance. Allow some time to see what is possible. Do you know of any persons who have gone through this or for whom this area is an expertise?

Chris
 
Posts: 3 | Location (City & State): Berea, Ohio | Registered: 13 August 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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