Feedback please on the companies you used, your overview of the job they did, requirements, etc.

Some previous discussions on this topic are below but please add others that are not listed as well as any info that is more current.
Advice on Movers
Shipping Furniture from US to Italy
International Movers Advice

Hi, Cristina,

I am back at it--worrying with the move, time is getting closer. I am not certain I am using this FAQ page as you intended--so please move my post to a more appropriate place if need be.

I have contacted one company to begin the process on how much it costs to move household items from New York (near Buffalo) to Italy. The information coming back to me from the mover (who is affiliated with Graebel Van Lines) says the following:

By Sea:
2000 lbs - net $303.81 per net 100 lbs from door to door

1000 lbs - net $360.00 per net 100 lbs. from door to door (there is a 1000 lb minimum)

Nothing is said about volume, size of container, etc. All costs appear to be based solely on weight.

These prices do not include duties/taxes, demurrage (a word I still need to look up), customs exams, storage, or valuation.

The agent included customs information forms. One of the items on these really has me concerned. It gives me the impression that I will not be able to have our "stuff" moved until I can produce a permesso di soggiorno and 2 originals of our Certificate of Residence.

From my reading on this forum, it seems that the PdiS is taking months to obtain, and I thought it took a year or so to obtain a Certificate of Residence. Therefore, if I am correct, our stuff can't be moved to Italy for quite a long time.

This does not seem right, but I believe anything could be possible.

Please help me understand exactly what paperwork we must have in order for the moving company to get our furniture/stuff into our rental home in Italy.

Claudia

Altho it's 4+ years old, here's the list of stuff I needed to send to the moving company in Italy once the goods had arrived:

Picture page of passport

Copy of codice fiscale

Receipt of Residenza (Original)

Inventory in Italian - signed

Address complete with directions and phone #

So yes, if the requirements are still the same, you will need your residenza to calim your goods. Some comune will grant you residenza with only the receipt (ours did), especially if you explain the situation. Best of luck.

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That's pretty much what we needed 18 months ago. The moving company needed the documents before the goods landed here in order to satisfy customs upon arrival.

The only difference is that the residency certificate from the Comune had to indicate your country of origin - where you moved from when you came to Italy. It's not information that's normally included on a residency certificate. The Comune reissued my wife's certificate with the information included.

Barb's right. The best you can do is throw yourselves on the mercy of the Comune and ask for a residency certificate on the basis of the receipt for the Permesso application. Importing household goods is just yet another thing badly affected by the Permesso log jam.

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Originally posted by Barb (and Art):
Altho it's 4+ years old, here's the list of stuff I needed to send to the moving company in Italy once the goods had arrived:

Picture page of passport

Copy of codice fiscale

Receipt of Residenza (Original)

Inventory in Italian - signed

Address complete with directions and phone #

So yes, if the requirements are still the same, you will need your residenza to calim your goods. Some comune will grant you residenza with only the receipt (ours did), especially if you explain the situation. Best of luck.

Alrighty, here we are much closer to getting this move done.

We have a storage unit in Texas with the boxes of stuff we want moved to Italy. We leave 31 July, and I would like to get the movers to pick up our stuff and begin the move just a few days before we leave.

Barb, if I understand what you are saying....your list of items is what you sent back to the moving company AFTER the goods arrived in Italy--right?

What if the goods arrive in Italy more than 60 days before we get residenza? Will we have to pay duty? How do they decide how much the stuff is worth to assess a duty to it?

Barb, what did you mean when you wrote "Receipt of Residenza (Original)"? Did you mean a copy of the original?

And OMG, how detailed must the inventory, in Italian be??? Item by item???? If we are using an American moving company, why must the inventory be in Italian? This makes me think that the inventory is really for the Italian government. Help me understand.

I am wondering if we should leave the stuff behind (paying a monthly storage fee!!), and have it sent later after we have our residenza in hand.

If we can get the comune to give us residenza with just our PdS receipt in order to claim our goods, can't we use this same residenze to buy a car??? (back to my other thread..... )

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What if the goods arrive in Italy more than 60 days before we get residenza? Will we have to pay duty?

You have a choice-
get your goods and pay duty
or
wait for residenza and pay storage charges.

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Originally posted by Italy or Bust!:
Barb, what did you mean when you wrote "Receipt of Residenza (Original)"? Did you mean a copy of the original?

I'm not Barb, but she meant the original document, not a copy. You make a copy of the document for your records, send the original with the other required documents to whomever requires them.

And as I posted earlier, the residency document needs to have recorded on it the country you left in order to move to Italy. In your case, the U.S. The residency document normally doesn't carry that information. You have to ask for it to be added.

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And OMG, how detailed must the inventory, in Italian be??? Item by item????

Our goods, coming from Australia, had an inventory only in English. It was the standard inventory done my movers.

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I am wondering if we should leave the stuff behind (paying a monthly storage fee!!), and have it sent later after we have our residenza in hand.

If storage is cheaper there than here, it might be an idea. Depends exactly when you need the stuff.

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If we can get the comune to give us residenza with just our PdS receipt in order to claim our goods, can't we use this same residenze to buy a car??? (back to my other thread..... )

Yes. If you can wangle residency with only the receipt.

I also got residency with only the receipt for the Pdis, but that was 5 years ago before the crazy mail-in thing started. Not sure if you get a receipt that they will accept today.

I think it depends to a huge extent on the particular Comune and contacts within same.

Barb and Art, You mentioned Inventory in Italian signed, but "SIGNED BY WHOM" THANK YOU.

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Originally posted by Barb (and Art):
Altho it's 4+ years old, here's the list of stuff I needed to send to the moving company in Italy once the goods had arrived:

Picture page of passport

Copy of codice fiscale

Receipt of Residenza (Original)

Inventory in Italian - signed

Address complete with directions and phone #

So yes, if the requirements are still the same, you will need your residenza to calim your goods. Some comune will grant you residenza with only the receipt (ours did), especially if you explain the situation. Best of luck.

Barb brought her stuff from the States, we brought ours from Australia. We didn't need a signed inventory, just an inventory, and it was in English. It was prepared by the movers in Australia after we had already left Australia.

Any advise on how I avoid customs charges on my shipment of used (some more than others) household goods and personal effects? I have already established residency in Italy with the receipt from my PdiS. Does anyone know the regulations guiding customs charges? Is it a bad idea to have a few new items (wedding gifts) in my shipment?

Thank you!